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  Babylon The Great

  by EisMe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  babylon the great: a prophetic warning.

  babylon the great is not just a city—it is the system that governs the world economy.

  this was god's first judgment against economic babylon, but it would not be his last.. the three parts of babylon's economy.

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  Babble-On the Great is The Faking and Deceitful Slave
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  Self control fruits of the spirit. Fat GB seem to lack it

  by JohnR1975 in

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  fruits of the spirit would surely be required to be gb members?

  yet some of them seem to lack self control when it comes to eating.

  br herd, mark sanderson and br jackson in these are all very obese.. if they travel to poor places wearing their rolex watches and gold pinky rings the brothers there will surely wonder why they are so fat.. there are many scriptures talking about not being greedy and not gluttonous for food.. if they were really chosen by god as his channel on earth then why can’t they show the fruits of the spirit and show self control when it comes to being gluttonous?.

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  JW doctrine is these men were chosen to be kings

  They certainly are living like kings.
  
  
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  A gospel of LOVE or a gospel of HATE?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1961, p. 596; bold added).

  " (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703; bold added).

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  Absolutely, Yes.
  
  The fact that atheists cannot account for the morality they do have in their worldview, doesn't diminish the doctrine of moral depravity, it strengthens it:
  
  

  "There is no one righteous, not even one; there is no one who understands, no one who seeks God. All have turned away, and have become utterly useless; there is no one who does good, not even one."

  "And just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God any longer, God gave them over to a depraved mind".

  "For all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God."
  
  If born-again Christians do something that is truly pure, they can't really take credit for that. It was a gift and did not originate with them.
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  A gospel of LOVE or a gospel of HATE?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1961, p. 596; bold added).

  " (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703; bold added).

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  That's a strange argument to make by someone who claims Christians are morally superior
  

  Please show where I have ever stated that Christians (especially the non-born again type if there is such a thing) are morally superior to atheists. The doctrine of moral depravity is bedrock Christian doctrine.

  What the Catholic Church did was hideous. But as our resident Catholic aquased pointed out, much of that (he says nearly all, and I disagree) was the State acting as an agent in the name of the church.

  Regardless, without question atheists ideologies have murdered hundreds of millions more people that the "Christian" church/state ever did, and you know that. So, get off your moral pony ya filthy heathen...
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  A gospel of LOVE or a gospel of HATE?

  by JanH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1961, p. 596; bold added).

  " (the watchtower, 11/15 1952, p. 703; bold added).

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  Or Atheists ?
  
  How many hundreds of millions of people got murdered by atheists in the 20th century PP? I think the atheists win this murder contest.
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  Trump Tariffs started today, Some Countries Caved in early morning.

  by liam in

  1. social
  2. current

  usa politicians in charge of the economy for the past 50 years were too stupid to understand how the economy works.

  this just proves my theory, that an education on the top tier universities just sucks and means nothing in the real world, unless its in the stem education.

  for 50 years usa had zero tariffs on other countries.

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  Before the election people asked trump what his plan was. He had none.

  This is the Platform Donald Trump campaigned on and was elected BY A LANDSLIDE to do - by the American people.

  1. Seal the border and stop the migrant invasion

  
  

  2. Carry out the largest deportation operation in American history

  
  

  3. End inflation, and make America affordable again

  
  

  4. Make America the dominant energy producer in the world, by far!

  
  

  5. STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER

  
  

  6. large tax cuts for workers, and no tax on tips!

  
  

  7. Defend our constitution, our bill of rights, and our fundamental freedoms, including freedom of speech, freedom of religion, and the right to keep and bear arms

  
  

  8. Prevent world war three, restore peace in Europe and in the middle east, and build a great iron dome missile defense shield over our entire country -- all made in America

  
  

  9. End the weaponization of government against the American people

  
  

  10. Stop the migrant crime epidemic, demolish the foreign drug cartels, crush gang violence, and lock up violent offenders

  
  

  11. Rebuild our cities, including Washington dc, making them safe, clean, and beautiful again.

  
  

  12. Strengthen and modernize our military, making it, without question, the strongest and most powerful in the world

  
  

  13. Keep the U.S. dollar as the world's reserve currency

  
  

  14. Fight for and protect social security and medicare with no cuts, including no changes to the retirement age

  
  

  15. Cancel the electric vehicle mandate and cut costly and burdensome regulations

  
  

  16. Cut federal funding for any school pushing critical race theory, radical gender ideology, and other inappropriate racial, sexual, or political content on our children

  
  

  17. Keep men out of women's sports

  
  

  18. Deport pro-hamas radicals and make our college campuses safe and patriotic again

  
  

  19. Secure our elections, including same day voting, voter identification, paper ballots, and proof of citizenship

  
  

  20. Unite our country by bringing it to new and record levels of success

  
  

  Like many of you, I understand people who leave one cult and jump into another. I see people refer to trump as "Dear Leader".

  Cults don't have elections. When a person stops reading the Watchtower, they can see all the deception they were under. My advice to you Lee Marsh is to stop watching fake news (and fake bible journals).

  
  
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  Things Rutherford got wrong that Fred Franz had to clear up

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was interested by the suggestion in a recent discussion that rutherford was in some way preferable to fred franz, because i’ve not come across this view before.

  it made me rethink my assumptions and try to work out why i hold the opposite view and prefer fred franz to rutherford.

  i haven’t done any additional research, so i’m only drawing on what i can remember off the top of my head, but i thought i’d list a few things where i reckon fred franz’s approach was preferable to rutherford.

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  A gospel of LOVE or a gospel of HATE?

  by JanH in

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  " (the watchtower, 10/1 1961, p. 596; bold added).

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  They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct

  A perfect example of JW's who cannot seem to reason, only react like an animal when others do not submit to their authority.

  "Men can spray a field with chemicals that kill weeds but spare crops; too bad they cannot spray cities with bombs that blow the bad to bits but leave the innocent intact." (The Watchtower, 7/15 1955, p. 436)

  Imagine if the WT somehow got political power of the state. If technology would allow it, it looks like they wish to carpet bomb cities and kill everyone who are not JW’s.

  At any rate, it is not hard to imagine the radicalization of WT members spilling over into their own family members who dare to question the JW church. The recent "90% of children getting beat study" done recently in Japan supports this. If only we could get such a study in the USA!
  
  BTW, there are excellent quotes from WT in the OP that I have never seen before. Great research JanH !
  
  Bookmarked.
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  What is the Craziest Thing You Are Aware Of Someone Being Disfellowshipped For?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i knew a lady who was disfellowshipped for 20 years for smoking.

  she finally went back to the kh and since they couldn't find her paperwork, (all the former elders were dead) she was allowed back in without reinstatement.

  no one even remembered her.

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  Soon, the two adult "witnesses" have "accidents". One healthy young woman dies of an "asthma attack'...with missing medication. Another "commits suicide"...357 in the face..

  Sounds like the witnesses I grew up with. I'll tell some similar stories one day.
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  Beware of PIMO'S in the Congregation. Convention day 1 video

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body is now focusing on those that are pimos in the congregation, trying to wake up pimis.

  they have a video series featuring a mom, dad, and son.

  the mom is fighting cancer.

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  Sea Breeze

  The era thought police begins.